See, that’s just it. *I* still see Nasir.
I saw him welcoming the newcomers and getting to know them, and getting lifted into a bear-hug by Lugo. I saw him offering moral support to Mira and Naevia. I saw him grieving Chadara. I saw him fighting the Germans after Sedullus stirred things up. Part of the brilliance of the series is that there is sooooooo much going on in the backgrounds of the scenes, so much more story happening than just the dialogue. Even when the characters are in the foreground, there’s often some beautiful, unspoken stuff happening. If he’s arguably been a bit underused of late, well, he got a lot of screentime after first being introduced — they can’t all get big, juicy parts every ep. I’m sure he’ll get more again.
But Agron’s a slightly more important character, so if Agron’s gotten more scenes without Nasir than Nasir’s gotten without Agron, or if Nasir’s been used to shore up Agron a bit — offer support and help Agron grow as a person — that makes sense. Nasir is supporting cast, Agron is main. But there’s a difference between JUST shoring up another character, and doing so *and* also developing one’s own at the same time. Aside from all the stuff I mentioned, we’ve seen Nasir go from shy to bold — like when he got a bit drunk and tried to hit on Agron (with that suggestive little eyebrow raise when he was holding the wineskin). He noted when Agron went through the crowd to try to bury the hatchet with Crixus — we saw his little smile as he realised what Argon was doing. And Agron would never have done it if not for Nasir, so I really don’t get the idea someone else posed that he’s useless now. It may be subtle, but he’s had great influence on Agron simply because of who he is, and that’s not nothing. And I’m sure he’ll have influence on others besides Agron. The romance is *part* of his character, but I hope I’ve shown that there *is* indeed more to him.
Anyway, I think it says a lot that it took them so long to get to this point in their relationship — I have a hard time connecting to Mira/Spartacus because their relationship seemed to me to have been based on sex *first* rather than, as with Nagron, a deep bond that has now taken on more physical intimacy. (I’m not against Mira/Sparty, I like them, but when Nasir suggested Sparty loves Mira, I was all “are you sure?”)
And my love for Nagron is not just because they are a slash couple: *I’m* bi-poly. Whether it’s boyxboy, boyxgirl, or girlxgirl, or any variation of genders, or even androgyness, at the end of the day, what I want to see is *love*. That’s what I see in Nagron — and have a very hard time seeing in real life. And just because I see and treasure it doesn’t mean I or any other Nagron fanatic are oblivious to any other aspect of the characters or the show.
If it’s madness to celebrate love and find such joy in it (I suffer from depression a lot, and little has made me as happy of late as Nagron), then I guess I am mad!
If there’s not enough non-nagron in the Spartacus tag for your liking (and I don’t mean specifically nayaritism — I very much appreciate that you’ve taken the time to explore other’s feelings,; this is more in reply to another post I saw), consider adding more non-nagron content *yourself* instead of suggesting others should stop posting what they enjoy or assuming that just because you don;t see value, others shouldn’t either or that it’s not there to be found. :)
~WolfenM, aka hellyeahtrickster
Excellent points! I loved this! And I know for me, I’ve never been Anti-Nagron, just more Anti the madness of it all. But I guess that IS because I’ve been there through the Barca and Pietros relationship, that DIDN’T get this kind of love, and that relationship broke me. So it’s interesting to have another side of the opinion with this with fresh eyes, not still holding on to Barca and Pietros. And my only REAL gripe with this is for the love of gosh can we bring Nasir THE CHARACTER back, not just the romance.
First, an important bit of context:
For all the love the Nagron pairing gets, their moments take up less than 2 minutes of what is an hour-long show. We’ve taken longer (and more explicit) trips to the whorehouse in every episode than what we’ve gotten out of Nagron - and their pairing makes up…
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loving relationship has generated disgusts me.
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See, that’s just it. *I* still see Nasir....saw him welcoming the newcomers and getting...
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salute you, my good sir. These...my thoughts exactly.
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